The U.S. has never found it easy to assign race, although it certainly has tried. A century ago, the people who did the counting -- demographers, sociologists, policy thinkers -- divided whites into three strata. They considered Nordic whites, from England, Scandinavia and Germany, the most ethnically desirable and elite, followed by the Alpine whites, from eastern and central Europe, and finally the Mediterraneans. Everyone else was identified as black, red, yellow or brown, which included South Asians.
Whiteness and the privileges that came with it were so closely guarded that in 1912, a House committee held hearings on whether Italians were really Caucasian, says Thomas Guglielmo, a historian at George Washington University. The idea was picked up from Italy, where northern, lighter-skinned Italians, were asking the same questions about the southern, darker-skinned Italians, he says. No one argued seriously that Jews and Greeks, or Irish and Poles -- light-skinned but poor -- weren't white, but whether they were ethnically Caucasian was up for debate, he adds.
Racial Identity's Gray Area
June 12, 2008; Page A10
When Barack Obama, whose mother was white, identifies himself as black, and when Bill Richardson, whose father was white, identifies himself as Hispanic, who is white?
The U.S. Census Bureau says the country will be majority-minority in 2050 -- that is, the combined number of blacks, Asians, American Indians and Hispanics will put whites in the minority. Texas and California are already there.
But the definition of white keeps shifting. Groups have been welcomed in or booted out; people opt out, sue to get in or change their minds and jump back and forth.
The deepest racial divide, between blacks and nonblacks, endures. But there also are identity shifts among African-Americans, as Sen. Obama's success suggests. Some make it into the middle class, where education and social mobility may help shape their identities as much as race does. Others are left behind in increasingly segregated schools and neighborhoods.
The U.S. has never found it easy to assign race, although it certainly has tried. A century ago, the people who did the counting -- demographers, sociologists, policy thinkers -- divided whites into three strata. They considered Nordic whites, from England, Scandinavia and Germany, the most ethnically desirable and elite, followed by the Alpine whites, from eastern and central Europe, and finally the Mediterraneans. Everyone else was identified as black, red, yellow or brown, which included South Asians.
Whiteness and the privileges that came with it were so closely guarded that in 1912, a House committee held hearings on whether Italians were really Caucasian, says Thomas Guglielmo, a historian at George Washington University. The idea was picked up from Italy, where northern, lighter-skinned Italians, were asking the same questions about the southern, darker-skinned Italians, he says. No one argued seriously that Jews and Greeks, or Irish and Poles -- light-skinned but poor -- weren't white, but whether they were ethnically Caucasian was up for debate, he adds.
Ethnic Fractions
The Census Bureau, which went door-to-door to count heads until 1970, for a time recorded gradations of blackness. That prevented those with any black ancestor from claiming to be white -- a measure known as the "one drop" rule. The agency defined those with one black parent as mulattos, one black grandparent as quadroons, and one black great-grandparent as octoroons.
In 1922, the Supreme Court decided that a Japanese man had white skin but wasn't ethnically Caucasian, and it denied him citizenship. A year later, it decided a South Asian was ethnically Caucasian but not white, and it denied him citizenship, too.
All of this because whiteness mattered a lot. Until 1943, only blacks of African heritage and whites could become naturalized citizens. Interracial marriage was illegal in some states until 1967, and some Jim Crow laws that protected white jobs, neighborhoods, voting rights and political power didn't fall until the 1970s.
An "expansive definition" of who wasn't white meant the pool of lower-paid, nonwhite labor was always growing, Dr. Guglielmo says.
Today, being white still has its privileges, but its meaning is changing now that those who are nonwhite face fewer legal and social barriers.
"Who's white [won't] mean that much, but when someone is partly black, that will still be noticed by a large part of society," says Bill Butz of the Population Reference Bureau, a Washington research group. He sees today's black-white divide becoming a "black/nonblack" gulf.
Intermarriage is now common, blurring racial lines. Demographers estimate that about 8% of the U.S. population is mixed race, and almost one million multiracial children were born since 2000, when "two or more races" became a separate racial category on the Census form.
Opting Out of Whiteness
After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, there was "some sentiment" among non-Arabs for counting Arab-Americans as nonwhite, says David Roediger, a University of Illinois race historian. Since then, the Arab-American Institute in Washington has unsuccessfully lobbied the government for a separate "Middle East and North African" category on the census. The institute puts the Arab-American population at three times larger than the Census estimates, which limits its political power and claims on government programs.
Some minorities or multiracial Americans who were once counted as white are opting out of the category. The population calling itself Native American quadrupled when the Census Bureau began asking people to identify themselves by race rather than relying on its own enumerators to do the job.The number of Hawaiian dropped by half when the "two or more races" category was introduced.
Mexicans were long counted in the Census as whites because of an 1848 U.S.-Mexico treaty that allowed them citizenship; only whites and blacks could naturalize, so by that logic, Mexicans were white. But since 1980, Hispanics have had a separate Census category where even intermarried, non-Spanish speakers can include themselves, if they choose. One in eight people in the U.S. does, including Latin American, European and Caribbean Hispanics and their progeny.
Identity groups that once lobbied to be accepted as whites now see advantages in being nonwhite, including college-admission and hiring preferences. Some African-Americans who fear losing political power to the fast-growing Hispanic population have quietly urged Caribbeans and those of mixed race to identify themselves simply as black. Other minority groups are reclaiming their racial identities out of pride.
"Racial categories as we know them are not going to continue to hold for another 50 to 100 years," says Donna Gabaccia, who heads the University of Minnesota's Immigration History Research Center. Those who try to keep track of race "are always going to be five or 10 years behind where society is" as race becomes more about choice and less about government definition, adds Mr. Butz of the Population Reference Bureau.
The Melting-Pot Effect
That doesn't mean race won't matter, even as it becomes harder to define. Blacks still cannot jump back and forth across those shifting racial lines, which explains why Sen. Obama calls himself black even while he singled out his white grandmother in his speech claiming the Democratic nomination.
That's not likely to change soon. Some demographers predict that within a century, there will be as many Americans who are mixed-race as there will be those whose parents are both of the same race, further blurring color lines. But that "hybridity," as demographers call it, will be concentrated among Hispanics and Asians who marry whites and each other, not among blacks.
Meanwhile, the definition of who is white may change again -- and again. A century ago, Americans faced the same predictions about the loss of the white majority that they do today. Then, with Eastern and Southern Europeans flooding in, it was predicted that Caucasians would fall into the minority by 1950, says the University of Illinois's Dr. Roediger.
Those Italians, Slavs and other immigrants eventually were redefined as white as they assimilated and moved up the economic ladder. "That same thing could happen again," Dr. Roediger says -- this time, with minorities and immigrants changing their racial identities themselves. "Race is malleable in that sense," he says.

16 comments:
Excuse me,Greeks are NOT white.We have matte meditteranean skin,it's different, you cannot compare people who have greek origins but for many generations have lived in north america to the Greeks who live in Greece or CYprus.
Excuse me but Greeks ARE WHITE. No Greek ever thinks of himself as "meditteranean" given the word is not even in the Greek lexicon BUT European, a GREEK term originated from ancient Greece. Many Greeks in Greece have light skin that tans easily, it doesn't make them none white.
Yes Greeks are white. Meditteranean isn't a racial identity is a land of water that spans over 25 countries and different ethnicities and three continents.
Greeks are of Caucasoid stock indeed. Some are swarthy; others are fair like the Galicians or Asturians of Northern Spain.
Greeks are NOT white. It is not cool to be white, and that trumps any empirical scientific evidence you might have.
funny how many of u who think greeks are white are greek? im greek american, i'm not white we coined the term white people and it didnt describe us it described the barbarians to the north. also greeks are darker than italians and southern italians are genetically greek
People, you need not be blond, blue-eyed, and have skin the color of snow to be white. Most Europeans lack at least one of the aforementioned traits, so going by this, many Germans, French, Brits, and yes even Scandinavians would not be white.
Sure, Greeks, southern Italians, and other southern Europeans tend to be a bit darker than other Europeans on average, but certainly it doesn't exclude them from being racially Caucasian. Heck even a plurality of people from the Middle East and a good many North Africans are clearly Caucasian and are relatively light-skinned.
All that said, the average Italian has brown hair, hazel/brown eyes, and brunet white/light olive skin. The same could probably be said for the average Spaniard or mainland Greek (as opposed to Greek Cypriots who are a bit darker on average). The only real differences between southern Europeans and all other Europeans is simply a higher percentage of dark-haired dark-eyed people, nothing more really. As an exapmle, take a typical Sicilian out of the hot Mediterranean sun for a long while and I guarantee that he/she will look pretty pasty after a long snowy winter.
I am an Italian American and most people often confuse me as being mixed African American or Puerto Rican. When I ask other people what "race" they think I am they never say "white". When I explain to people that I am Italian they most often challenge me or they become uncomfortable (midwestern americans mostly). My phenotype is much like Damiano Tommasi, Michela Musolino, and Frank Sivero (Google their images). In my experience most "white" Americans who identify themselve as being "white" are not very willing to include me as part of their group. They are most comfortable calling me "Mediterranean" when they learn that I am Italian. Take it for what it's worth.
Greeks are indeed white.You can look at pictures of both ancient and modern Greeks to confirm that.The ancients always depicted themselves as white or at the very darkest with a light tan from staying out in the sun.For example Alexander the Great was depicted and described as fair skinned. The darkest Greeks are tan skin and that still makes them caucasoid.There is a guy at my school who is full Greek and he is very white.I doubt if the guy who said he is a greek american and not white really is Greek.All the greeks i have seen are white.Why does it matter that they are white.Is that somehow bad and how is it uncool to be white considering all the scientific advancements and advances in technology whites have made.Whites are the only ones to do evil.Shaka Zulu and Tamerlane are proof of that. I believe all races are equal and need to be treated as such
Greeks are indeed white.They are European.All you have to do is look at pictures of both modern and ancient Greeks to confirm that.They always depicted themselves as white or at that the very darkest tan skinned.They have been few genetic influences on Greeks most of which are from Slavs which are white and some from the middle east mostly from Turks.I doubt the person who said their Greek American is really Greek or at least full Greek,but you are right in the fact that the Greeks were the first to describe white skin color which was during the reign of the Ptolemies contrasting themselves the whites between the black people so clearly the ancients considered themselves white.Why does it matter that they were white.There is a Greek guy at my school and he is very white.How is it uncool to be white considering the advances in science and technology whites have made.Whites are not the only ones to do evil,Shaka Zulu and Tamerlane are proof of that.All races are equal and should be treated as such.
People tend to take the term 'White' way too literally!
I'm Italain, French, and English and will ALWAYS consider MYSELF a White Man
If MOST people here in the States took a plane trip to Italy they would swear there in another country!! In ALL the places I have been, I've NEVER seen more WHITE PRIDE slogans in my life then in Italy. I couldn't count on my fingers and toes all the Swastikas and Celtic Crosses I saw! It was awsome!
Gee I wonder why they let Italians, French, Spaniards, Greeks, and Romanians and Portuguese people in White Supremacy orginizations!! Because they feel sorry for us??!!
The Roman soccer club S.S. Lazio is devoted to ONLY WHITE players throughout its ENTIRE history, there has only been 2-3 Blacks I believe on that club and they didn't last long there AT ALL
Is it any wonder why there have been groups of Italians who have gotten their DNA checked? BEcause of IGNORANT PEOPLE in the States who have misconstruded this for a LONG time now
Italains are WHITE -From the Lightest to the Darkest!!! they're ALL WHITE
Greeks are clearly more Middle Eastern, on average. Greek European haplogroups are only 39%.
actually i am greek and we are not white. to sit there and say that Mediterranean is not a race but european is is strait idiocy. we are not white we are a middle eastern phenotype and always have been. we have resided in what is greece long before your ancestors discovered toilets. do not compare my heritage and people to you. we were discriminated against worst than any other minority in the history of this country. we were the least excepted group aloud to enter the U.S. sorry but dark skin does make you non white. different culture religion heritage and history too. your all celtic origin we are not celt but middle eastern. you think it is complete chance we have dark skin curly hair and us the Phoenician alphabet as our own. greeks are descendant of neolithic populaces that have resided in greece for thousands of years. our genetic legacy is from middle eastern nomadic peoples. our closest relatives are armenians and lebanese peoples. get over it you whites can not take credit for our great history and contributions to this world.
greeks are not white. if we are then mexicans and asians are too. being european is not a race. how can you say med is not a race and european is. again i rest my case. whites only want us to be white so they can have some claim to our history. you do realize that the first time people started calling greeks white was because greek culture is the most important of history and to say we are not white takes away from you theory of racial superiority. get over it we are not one of you we are middle eastern european is not a race.
The modern "Greeks" now living in Greece aren't descended from the Ancient Greeks, so whites have nothing to gain of that history by including them. Your attitude of supposed superiority reeks of hypocrisy.
So they are saying that white and caucasian are two different things; so that may be the case. The term 'caucasian' stems from the people who were freed from the caucasus mountains (the 12 tribes of Israel). Mediterranean people(Spain, France, Italy and Greece) ARE of the tribes; so are the Irish; the Polish are not, and the Russians are not. Color of skin simply does not matter if you are judging one on the basis of race. Even though I am not advocating judging someone on that, I am just stating the facts. The same goes with black people; not only Africans are black--so are East Indians, yet they are classified as Asian! So, even if you were to judge someone on the basis of that skin color, then it would not matter either. Skin color is not scientific; race is. And, it's not uncouth to talk about it either. And, just to give one ounce of my opinion --if the only people who were allowed to have citizenship in this country were Europeans and Africans (not black and white), then it should be the same today. The only people who should be here are African-Americans and European-Americans, in my opinion!
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